So there is/was no way to compensate because the angle markings were/are off randomly. In conclusion, I do not recommend buying a new Graves faceting machine. All components are of space-saver size with the performance of a full size faceting machine. This package contains EVERYTHING you need to start . Note: I heard from Graves on machining here is what they told me. 5x Replacement Drive & Power Feed Belts for Graves MK IV & 5XL Faceting Machine $34.90 $8.50 shipping 4x Replacement Drive & Power Feed Belts for Graves MK IV & 5XL Faceting Machine $29.90 $7.50 shipping 3x Replacement Drive & Power Feed Belts for Graves MK IV & 5XL Faceting Machine While the Graves faceting machine angle protractor is very easy to set and quite simple to use to adjust the angle just loosen the knob/clamp and set the angle you want on the protractor/vernier. The more a person knows about faceting machines the better decision they can make when deciding which machine to buy. They do not have control of the process if they are jobbing it out. 1741 Kennerly Road, Irmo, SC 29063 The Rock Peddler, owned and operated by Jeanne Ridolfi, your lapidary supplier since 1977, is your best source for discounted pricing on major brands of lapidary equipment and supplies manufactured by Diamond Pacific, Facetron, Crystalite, Covington, Graves, Inland, Gearloose, CabKing, Omni, Foredom and others. 26111800. This is important, a smaller one or two man operation is limited in their service simply because of their size. Manufactured in the USA. Return to main page. Sid - I've only been faceting for 11 yrs now, I learned on the Graves Mark 5 & fell in love with faceting. from United States. UNSPSC Code. At left is a picture of a Graves faceting machine head. Add to Cart. A couple of other notes from Tony about his Graves machine. The problems can be frustrating and make it tough for a beginner when learning, you will need to have patience and determination because there will be some troubles (with the machine) that you will have to learn to over come. Mark 5XL Head & Mast for the Mark 4 and Mark 1 bases. features an electronic angle scale that is repeatable to better than .02 This is reflected in the cheaper cost of a new Graves machine. The coarse height adjustment collar will not drop when loosened and The machines can just High and low speed (with a switch) or just single speed. They had a booth inside the big tent an electric park. Single Faceting Machine - Two Speed - Standard VIDEO: Introduction Episode of Faceting - FPSS1 View Price and Details Contact on WhatsApp 2. Everything you need to start cutting right out of the box! Some people may not even be aware that their Graves angles are off, some may not be. Completely wired with switch on shade, has an extra long, flexible, vinyl coated gooseneck to light any point on the machine. . Design & Adjustability The Graves machine just an "OK" design in my opinion and can be adjusted somewhat. For those of you who do know what a Yugo car was. Our machine will do EVERYTHING competitive makes will do except it will cut faster, longer, and save you hundreds even thousands of dollars. Graves Company continues to be the leader in DRYING EQUIPMENT. In case you are wondering. See what his answers are Milling Platinum Sterling-A New Alloy. The lack of the ability to adjust and tune the squareness of the faceting machine is a major limiting factor in what you can cut and how well over time. The belt, pulleys, switch and extra long 3-conductor cord are factory assembled and wired to produce a full power continuously variable speed range of 0 to 600 RPM! bases with a "right hand" orientation (as pictured above. Has many extras, 2 disks,360 grit and 1200 grit, 2 index wheels #96 and #64, dop set, transfer jig and new drive belts one installed and 1 spare, lastly light and water tank with new drain hose. Well lets just say that you would often end up walking if you owned one. CORPORATE OFFICE ULTRA TEC Manufacturing, Inc. 1025 E. Chestnut Ave., Santa Ana, CA 92701, USA CONTACT NUMBERS Phone: +1 714 542 0608 Fax: +1 714 542 0627 Inquires info@ultratec-facet.com I will review the new Graves head when they are available to the public. I would definitely suggest the Facetron. Note: I have several friends that use older Graves machines and are fairly happy with them. Gemmasta GF4 Drive Belt (Single Belt Machines) $19.50. By this I mean. Post number and others describe it in more detail. They bought a new Graves thinking that they were stepping up and discovered that the older machine they had was actually better. numbers" utilizing a simple digital display that is stable, repeatable, and Learn what questions to ask before you. Mark But as you can see the Graves belt drive is simple and seems to work well. (07) 4053 1474. International PH. It has been suggested that the mechanics of this system makes it equivalent to a 4 foot radial arc . Water Tank for Facetron FAC-WT $42.00 Qty . Johnson Brothers Lapidary The castings are machined and assembled in our machine shop here in Pompano Beach. Faceting head and mast are investment cast aluminum/magnesium alloys that are machined and fitted to extremely close tolerances. Gem Faceting Machines 20 % OFF Save $389.80 Gem Faceting Machine - Single Use - Single Lap - Table Top - Standard - FPSS1 $ 1,949.00 $ 1,559.20 Add to cart 20 % OFF Save $469.80 Gem Faceting Machine - Single Use - Single Lap - Table Top - Digital - FPSS2 $ 2,349.00 $ 1,879.20 Add to cart 20 % OFF Save $489.80 See reviews, photos, directions, phone numbers and more for the best Sewing Machines-Service & Repair in Hamburg, NY. Definitely the most budget way to get into the hobby. It is easy and simple, not much that can go wrong Graves faceting machines have a variety of index gears available and the gears are easy to change. Note: I have talked to quite a few people that have had bearing problems with the arbor/platen of their Graves machine (Bob Keller was one). Top Rated Seller. I do not recommend machines made out of the country. Jersey Instruments Commercial Machine Ultra Tec Lapidary Supplies Diamond Laps Dop Wax Homepage Specials Faceting Rough Synthetic Rough Natural Rough Books - Videos SG Community Facet Designs Facebook Gem News About SG Show Dates Contact Us Returns Policy Terms & Conditions We are proud of this new An exactly duplicate of the proven Mark I machine except for the motor, switch and cabinet. Facetron was the most used machine in every competition (other than 2014 and 2019 which I don't have the stats for). A little practice and you will be MachineryTrader.com is the go-to source for buying and selling new & used Construction Equipment. DOP SET. The cheater adjustment on a Graves is easy and positive to use. (61) 7 4053 1474. The late Jeff Graham was a prolific faceter, creator of many original faceting designs, and the author of several highly-regarded instructional faceting books such as Gram Faceting Designs. In cutting tests, A faceting machine made in the USA has quite a few advantages in parts and service, just because it's made locally (in the country, assuming you live in the USA). The International Gem Society (IGS) is the world's top resource for gem professionals, enthusiasts, and industry content. Each plate will fit any Graves facetor (and several others also) and is permanently engraved with lines and numbers. Just the shipping can be very expensive to send a faceting machine to another country. I sat and watched him re-cut the crown (for the fourth or fifth time) to see if I could spot anything he was doing wrong. You simply loosen the clamp and the faceting head slides up and down the mast. The choice is easy GRAVES! But a poor machine (or one out of square) makes the learning process much more difficult and time consuming for a beginner. A Graves faceting machine is just barely adequate (as long as you take into consideration the faults) to learn on and certainly cheaper than about any other faceting machine on the used market. Several of them have gone back to cutting on their old Graves for this reason. Think of the Graves faceting machine as the "Yugo" of faceting machines. The Graves mast height arrangement is almost identical to the Facetron in the way it works even though the engineering is a little different. I just thought it worth mentioning. The angle markings on the vainer are stamped/etched into the metal. As you can see the Graves faceting head is very simple from a design point and decent in it's engineering. Books with Faceting Designs. GRAVES! I personally think that it discourages a lot of people just learning or trying to learn from continuing in the faceting hobby. precision that is beyond anything on the market today. On a hard stop machine you cut until you have actually hit the hard stop. Here is a major problem. Accepts a 100 watt bulb for maximum illumination. Keep in mind that success with ANY machine depends in large part on how much effort is put into developing your skills. If you have ever tried to warrantee a product that was manufactured out of the country then you understand the problems involved and how costly and difficult it can be. The factory that makes them will service them and is a brick and mortar manufacturer. Since 1974, Jarvi Tool, LLC has strived to produce the highest quality faceting machine because they know that in order to produce the finest quality gemstones, you, the faceter, need the finest quality precision faceting machine. faceting head features simplicity in design, ease of use, and state of the art One problem that people can have with the Graves system when adjusting the mast height. Left is a picture of a Graves faceting head. Price - V5D - $4,950.00**. and main housing with precision ball bearings to support the quill and angle Innovative Design Makes the Raytechshaw Faceter Easy to Use. 300.00 . Precision Note: Bob is a good cutter and won the novice level competition of the USFG cutting contest for 2001 using this Graves machine.So you can cut to high standards with a Graves provided the design is not too demanding of accuracy. Cutting Oil. To get the left/right adjustment correct so that the quill sweeps flush to the lap is almost impossible to do and even if you can get things lined up the settings will not stay. But not the same way. The 230v 50Hz Export model is available for an additional $30.00. All spindles and bar stock are precision-turned stainless steel for maximum durability and lasting beauty. Designed specifically for the home - small, light-weight, easy to store and portable! I have never really dealt with Graves and have no opinion on their customer service. The markings vary in a random fashion, no way to predict in how the angles vary. Find FILLING MACHINES and other equipment for sale at Hamburg Machinery HM GmbH. Buy an Ultra Tec Faceting Machine! Questions you need to ask when buying a digital Faceting Machine. Add To Wishlist. LAPIDARY JEWELRY FACETERThe Best Value Faceting Machine Package ,100 watt lamp, Drip Tank, Transfer Fixture, Faceting Head MastThe motor needs new brushes. $4609.00 . Expanded Protractor Scale. This is almost a guarantee that you will damage any stone that you have on a dop in the quill/faceting head. Mill Valley, CA $1 Lapidary estate sale Clackamas, OR $120 10" Trim saw Waynesburg, OH $175 6" Combination Canton, OH $800 Lapidary Equipment Tacoma, WA $1,500 Faceting machine Mill Valley, CA $450 It's a cheap way to start, but not a good way to start in my opinion. Faceting - Facetron * Highest Quality precision machine for gemstones * A cut above the rest * Made in the USA . The Graves is adequate power wise. Bob finally gave up on tying to cut the "Ying Yang" design, there was just no way to do it using the angle markings on his Graves faceting machine. Having quality tools will make the hobby of faceting a lot more enjoyable, your cutting a lot faster and stress free (at least as far as the machine is concerned). Made of crystal clear acrylic so you can "see" your coolant level easily. Designed by Laurie Hall, manufactured by UNAMIT Cairns. PLASTIC TUBING. Polishes & Extenders. +C $52.86 shipping estimate. See link below for review of this model. This is NOT an estate sale, or storage locker find, with a bunch of mis-matched "extras". Science, tools, identification, treatment, valuation & grading of gems, Gemstone jewelry settings, metals, tools, cutting & faceting stones, List of all gemstones from A-Z with in-depth information for each, Everything you need to know about buying your perfect diamond, Learn more about these popular gemstones, their meaning & about buying birthstone jewelry, Price guidance on over 70 types of gemstones, In-depth guides to quality factors of the 40 most popular gemstones. Item No. There is nothing wrong with this, and it is not uncommon with other machine manufacturers either. The design was fine, so we had to start checking him and his Graves faceting machine. This item: Replacement Belt for Graves Mark IV 4 Faceting Machine. introduce the Mark 5XL Faceting Machine featuring our digital angle display Add To Wishlist. Note #1: The screw that holds the quill in the up position on the faceting head has a tendencey to loosen up and not stay tight. Facetron's advanced design is machined without compromise for precise meets of the facets on your valuable stones. meter. Learning on a Graves with the typical problems (see below) that the machines seem to have is starting with disadvantages. for equal value item?? However if you can find a cheap used Graves faceting machine in good shape a Graves is not a bad way to start to learn faceting. A solid aluminum quill extensively field tested by actual faceters, both amateur and professional. Home; Inventory. Mark I do not think the clamp/slide is any faster than the Ultra Tec crank, by the time you are ready to actually cut. Possible contamination shows up instantly. Sale! 02-950. The head works it's way out of alignment fast and easily. $1,195.00. Gemmasta GF4/GF5 Power Switch. I purchased a Facetron 4 yrs ago after my first machine an Omni-e bearings . $300.00 Used faceting machine in excellent condition. The new Graves Mark 5XL VL Classic Faceting Machine (Digital) $ View Product. It does not have nearly the adjustments that other faceting machines on the market do. Bob has a new Graves and an old one too. you set your angle, index setting and depth, then simply let the easy to read This year at Kraftwerks the refiners of a brand new alloy were there to demonstrate Ultraviolet testing can be crucial for gemstone identification. At left is a picture of a Graves faceting head from the back side. There are a lot of critical angles in the crown facets to get the "Ying Yang" effect/appearance. This is my personal machine, and I can't even count how many stones I've cut on it. BEST FACETING MACHINE VALUE ON THE MARKET TODAY! CUTTER. The faster running Mark IV will speed pre-forming and occasional cabochon work. My friend (Tony Carson the guy that used a set screw above) that has a Graves, has checked all of the angle markings so that he can compensate when he is cutting a complicated design. I did not see anything. supplies to get in the way. GIRDLE ALIGNER, a device to radially align the faceted gem; TOOLS and WHEEL WICK are also included. BUTTER MAKING MACHINE. Graves Faceting Machine Probably more people have learned or failed to learn to cut on a Graves faceting machine than almost any other machine in the last few decades. Plus it will be reasonable (not cheap, faceting machines are heavy and cost money to insure) to ship your machine to the factory for service and up grades as you need them. The lever (picture above) that sets the index gear is easy to use and spring loaded as you can see in the picture. Includes the following: Our book "Introduction to Meetpoint Faceting. Home > Faceting. it has approximately ten times the sensitivity of an LED "Down Light", Faceting Machines at Lowest Prices from Sierra Gems! $32.50. One feature that makes the Raytech Shaw Faceter unique is its removable handpiece. LAPIDARY JEWELRY FACETERThe Best Value Faceting Machine Package ,100 watt lamp, Drip Tank, Transfer Fixture, Faceting Head & Mast$500.00 LAPIDARY JEWELRY FACETERThe Best Value Faceting Machine Package ,100 watt lamp, Drip Tank, Transfer Fixture, Faceting Head & MastThe motor needs new brushes. In my opinion some of the angle accuracy claims are questionable. Specialty dops, like Tourmaline dops, are available from Graves and quite a few other manufacturers also.. Left is a picture of the Graves drive motor and drive assembly. A lot of machines do not have the ability to be adjusted, especially some of the older designs. Almost all faceting machines have some problems. BEST FACETING MACHINE VALUE ON THE MARKET TODAY! with .001" increment marking. 5.5K members Join group About Discussion More About Discussion About this group This group is for the buying and selling of USED faceting machines and their accessories. Faceting and the Graves machine are covered in-depth. Contact. Hall Xtra faceting machine business for sale. You can buy a used Graves (there are a lot of them around) to start on and they can be cheap used. I do not recommend it, but it is an improvement over the old head. Learn how to use this lap and. If you need a belt buy 3. Graves and Ultra Tec alternated for second. I have seen quite a few new cutters knock their stone(s) off of their dop this way. The real problems are in the mechanical aspects of the machine. accurate. Some people prefer it to the crank/thread mast of an Ultra Tec. Ad id: 2408203080225161. Depending on the age of the machine they may not be adjustable for lap speed either. Believe it or not, some manufactures are not very responsive to their customers for parts and service. He always ended up over cutting or under cutting some of the crown facets no matter what he did. Because Graves machines are inexpensive new, and they have been around a long time, used Graves machines are (relatively) easy to find and cheap. Don't settle for anything less! It is simple and easy to use. Note: The Graves head is smaller and lighter than the Facetron so this type of accident is not as likely. They are well designed and basically a solid machine. +. Hall "XTRA" faceting machine with accessories: Fifteen precision centreless ground brass dops, half round and round master dop, 45 degree angle adapter, high accuracy elliptical groove $19.50. I have no opinion because I have never dealt with them directly. All spindles and bar stock are precision-turned stainless steel for maximum durability and lasting beauty. I can tell you on the machines I have access to and have checked all of the angle gauges have all been wrong/off. With the release of the Mark 5XL, it now offers a well-designed digital angle readout at a very low price. Join our weekly newsletter & get a free copy of the Gem ID Checklist! Excluding the new Digital Graves of course. FACETING MACHINES. Discover more. the electronics providing up to 250 hours of cutting time. Dopping Grinding. defection. Graves has been in business for a long time. Pre-Owned. Facet Laps. DIAMOND FACETING CUTTING MACHINE LAPIDARY FOR CUTTING DIAMONDS Pre-Owned $2,300.00 or Best Offer Free local pickup 12 watchers Sponsored 6'' Gem Faceting Machine Jewelry Grinding Polishing Lapidary Processing Machine Brand New $194.78 $10 off every $200 with coupon Was: $205.03 5% off Top Rated Plus or Best Offer Free shipping Free returns A high speed, powerful, permanent magnet motor nestles inside the 17 1/2" cabinet together with a continuously variable speed controller. A inch case hardened Comes with a solid state speed controller and an on/off switch coupled to a high speed permanent magnet, variable speed DC motor. I am writing these articles as helpful information to faceters. Information is power. noted for its light weight, strength and corrosion resistance. The Graves is a hard stop machine as you can see. $27.50 . See what his thoughts are on Just Just Ask Jeff shares his frustrations on customer multiple orders and returns which is a common customer problems among rough Jeff R Graham shares his opinions and thoughts on various topics in Just Ask Jeff. Add to Cart. 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Gemmasta GF2 Drive Belt . , Transfer Fixture, Instruction Book, and all necessary tools. See what his thoughts are on Just ask Jeff: Review: Graves Faceting Machine. Diamond Pacific Titan $ $ Add to cart Details. 803-781-3589, Featuring Our New XL Digital Faceting Head. Mark 5XL Digital Faceting Head and Mast. In all fairness to Graves, this is a case of you will get what you pay for. Includes information on gem selection, critical angles for faceting as well as details on grinding and polishing. Gemmasta GF4/GF5 Drive Belt (Single Belt Machines) $19.50 . Read More Tin, Corian, and Ceramic Lap Testing It is a lot easier to cut a good stone on a good quality/square faceting machine. FACETING MACHINE "We believe this is the best, easiest, fastest faceting machine to work with for the price." Jack Slevkoff It has the following special features: Angle Indicator is a Digital Readout that is easy to set, readable, and repeatable. 02-960. If you do not cut much, a Graves might be "OK" for you or if you decide that faceting is not for you it is a cheap learning experience. 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When you decide you want a better faceting machine (you may not want a different machine, but probably will, some people are happy with their Graves), you can almost always get your investment $200 to $400 dollars back easily and quickly from a used Graves. No idea when. My opinion is that most people will be better off to spend more money and get a better machine. FUNDAMENTAL FACETING. Starting to learn faceting on a Graves machine will not be trouble free and I would recommend that most beginners learn on a better machine if they have the means to do so. The fine height adjustment is a 1 inch micrometer head That is why it is called a hard stop. Ultra Tec V2 faceting machine - $2,200 (Helena) View larger image. CLEARANCE - SALE. Please choose from the categories below: Facet Adhesives. I have heard a lot of people say it is not the machine, it is the faceter that makes a good stone. A Graves faceting machine is one of the cheapest around in initial cost. Personally, I am neutral. But in my opinion manufacturers that do not do their own machine work are usually not as dependable and stable as an actual "brick and mortar" manufacturer that does, at least in my experience. Gemstone identification requires a good reference library and some basic gemology tools. Add To Wishlist. Sale! GLASS TEC Machine $ View Product. Phone:- BH. Too fragile for jewelry use, faceted specimens are extremely rare. Major to minor, and anything in between. But I realize that cost is an issue for some people and a Graves can be bought pretty cheap, as I have said. Our dependable, fast, and easy faceting head is accurate to 1/10 of a degree. Get started with the International Gem Societys free guide to gemstone identification. ONLY USA , AUSTRALIAN AND IMAHASHI MADE MACHINES ALLOW See more Private Only members can see who's in the group and what they post. He thought perhaps there was a typo or a mistake in the design and asked me to double check it for him in GemCad. The belt, pulleys, switch and extra long 3-conductor cord are factory assembled and wired to produce a full power continuously variable speed range of 0 to 600 RPM! Item No. These brass dop sticks are made in Australia and designed to fit Gemmasta Faceting Machines. Views: 762. Keep in mind that these are my personal opinions and experiences, other people may have different ones. One thing I learned about graves many years ago. At left is a picture of a Graves angle adjustment protractor/venier. Trust me life is just easier if you start with good tools to begin with. cheese making machine 2. butter machine 3. butter packaging machines 1. cutter 3. drying equipment 1. filling machines 6. homogenisers 7. pasteuriser / plate heat exchanger 1. separators 12. uht 1. vats 3 On his machine the 45 degree mark is actually 43.8 (before the fix) degrees and that 5 degrees is actually 3.6 degrees. Order our Mark IV faceting machine COMPLETE. "The only parts that are produced outside our facility are dops at a CNC shop, the dop spindle at a centerless grinding facility, and our castings. On the other hand. - Economy Saw Blades. There are plenty of useful accessories made by Ultra-Tec that make faceting much easier. A possiable fix is some lock tight on the threads. No numbers to write down. It is just harder to do. - Smart Cut Saw Blades. This does not sound like a lot, but most Quartz designs are cut at 41 degrees and the critical angle of Quartz is 40.49 degree (R.I. =1.54). The Mark 5XL digital faceting head can also fit other makes of faceting machine bases with a "right hand" orientation (as pictured above. This revolutionary design allows users to truly "cut to the Also included are: LAMP. - Super Slicer Saw Blades. All components are of space-saver size with the performance of a full size faceting machine. Single Faceting Machine Types 1. extra-large drain tube will not clog - cutting material and debris are quickly flushed from splash pan; includes brass ferrule. Sort by Show 24 36 48 View as This collection is empty View all products bel2112252325. The Mark 5XL digital faceting head can also fit other makes of faceting machine Show 12 Products Facetron Dops $ 14.00 - $ 15.00 Select options Details Out of stock Facetron Index Gears $ 80.00 Details Out of stock Sale! and allows cutting "To the Numbers". Jeff R Graham shares his opinions on various topics in Just Ask Jeff. These machines have seen a number of improvements over the years. You would be cutting below the critical angle and not even know it before this Graves faceting machine was fixed. Double insulated, of course. The angles markings are not accurate. FT1 Diamond Cutting Faceting Machine Microscope Swiss Made Pre-Owned $999.99 Buy It Now Free local pickup Only 3 left in stock - order soon. Faceting. Graves Mark IV Faceting Machine - $1000 (Valentine) View larger image Ad id: 202205839903945 Views: 778 Price: $1,000.00 Graves Mark IV Faceting Machine LAPIDARY JEWELRY FACETER The Best Value Faceting Machine Package ,100 watt lamp, Drip Tank, Transfer Fixture, Faceting Head & Mast Includes 3 Faceting cutting guide books Our dependable, fast, and easy faceting head is accurate to 1/10 of a degree. Plus depending on the country the shipping service might not even be available or more importantly dependable On top of all of those problems there is still customs and taxes (import/export duty if the machine is new and depending on the country) to consider. MDR faceting machine, lap and disc clearance.This MDR faceting machine is fitted with a dial indicator stop system. Cairns, Qld. provides a fast setting. This is a big problem especially if you are not aware that it is happening. for equal value item?? Gem Faceting Machine 2800RPM Gemstone Grinding Jewelry Lapidary Cutting Polisher Brand New $176.08 $10 off $200+ with coupon Was: $185.35 5% off Top Rated Plus or Best Offer +$19.99 shipping Free returns Sponsored Tousdiamants FMTD No. Convenience of getting service is also something that you should consider. (See pictures) The machine comes with lots of extras including original equipment, extra belt, several used laps (I will keep the badly worn ones to . Just plug it in and its ready to run. amazed at how easy and fast you can finish a beautiful faceted gemstone. Then you will have a lot of trouble because of the incorrect angle markings and may not be able to cut a complicated design. A used Graves is easy to find, usually inexpensive, and easy to sell when/if you decide to move up to a better machine. In other words no machine is perfect. Frankly I have heard good and bad about Graves service (that can be said about any company). There is some truth to this. All rights reserved. Facetron Faceting Machine This machine would be a good choice when buying a used machine. Order our Mark IV faceting machine COMPLETE. We also stock a full range of Jersey instrument dop sticks that fit the Omni faceting machine, the new Patriot faceting machine and the new Tom Thumb faceting machine. A Best Cut Gems Exclusive! This is a vintage faceting machine in good working condition.A lot of people like these machines to try out and learn gemcutting. D. Diamond Saw Blades. Facet Machines & Acc. Left is a set screw that has been tapped into the angle block on his Graves. I am going to tell you what I think, you can make up your own mind on what is or isn't a problem for you. degrees, calibrated 0-90 degrees to 2 arc-minutes (+/-.03 degrees). I have sometimes seen a Graves for as low as a few hundred dollars ($200.00) used on the classifieds ad section at Bob's Rock Shop, which is a good place to look for used machines. After some checking and head scratching we figured out that it was the angle markings on the Graves faceting machine (it turned out they were between 3 and 4 degrees off). In other words, the design itself is decent but the manufacturing of the machine leaves a lot to be desired. Crystalite Spray Diamond $ 31.87 $ 28.70 Faceting Machine. Graves are belt drive, belts do tend to vibrate and make noise, depending on the machine. This is very simple and I like the positive way it sets and works. This friend of mine tapped a bolt with a lock nut into the angle stop block of his Graves faceting machine to compensate for the markings being incorrect on the angle protractor. providing durable, innovative, and affordable tools to the lapidary arts. The angles being off is not obvious unless you try to cut a design that is complicated and and has tight meet points. In other words you cannot just add or subtract a fixed degree to your angle setting and make the gauge accurate. 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