No worries Joe. Joe, I would prefer to charge directly from the alternator with the patrol but then at the same time using the dc-dc charger with the solar panels. Grid corrosion happens during overcharge. Hi Joe, Ive put a 160w solar panel on the roof of my BT50 and connected it to my aux battery via a regulator at the battery. Great having your help. Your setup sounds good. Terminals and connectors should be the right size for the cable. Our team is manufacturing a solar car with a battery of 48v. BATTERY CHARGER CIRCUITS: If circuit is the brain, battery is the heart of any gadget. For example that they are better for your loads, or provide better isolation, or that they help your starter battery charge to a higher capacity or improve longevity in your starter battery. I have taken a side track to this whole dual battery stuff. Cable run length from veh aux to camper aux would be 4m max and I am looking at something like 0 B&S for that run of wire. gas The diesel can be hand started, no worries. To overcome the limitations of a direct solar panel connection to your auxiliary battery, a solar regulator is used. Happy travels! Voltage is a good indicator of a batterys charge state if the battery is rested and not under load. Any cons I need to be aware of? As I mentioned before I am looking at the Enerdrive VSR but I am still unclear if that will actually allow two way power flow (from alternator and the solar) to BOTH batteries to keep them both fully charged where possible. We simply take a lot of old ideas and put them into a sort of mental kaleidoscope. Yep you can do that. In mounting it I plan to fit a wide cross shaped tmber support underneath in the centre of the panel between the back of the cells and the roof of the vehicle. I will size for max output from alternator which is around 150amps. My set up is a Troupy with 327 watt Sunpower e20 series solar panel 65v open voltage to be fitted to pop up roof. It can be difficult to prove whether the resistance through the chassis is acceptable. So closer to starter battery is better in this case. If you wish to design your battery charge indicator there here is a circuit for you. Something that your alternator cant do. is this right? My only suggestion would be to upgrade to a 100 amp relay. Hey outbackjoe just checking your blog and your last block diagram shows the inverter connected to ac and your battery charger connected to an outlet, could be bad for your health. Great blog Joe. 5000w. For Christmas I was given a 20 watt smart solar system. Being a Chinese special it wouldnt surprise me if it was the Inverter. Install according to instructions provided bythe inverter manufacturer. And I prefer the close to 1k it would take for combined dcdc and smartpass to stay in my bank. Key Findings. At the very least, you end up with two totally dead (and possibly irretrievably damaged) batteries. I have lost count of the number of times I have come across electrical failures which are attributable to soldered/ corroded/ brittle terminations. The system models the starter batterys state of charge and uses inputs from various loads and / or load current sensing to determine the differentmodes of operation. Great post. Ive been told by people that the VSR wont work with this system that I need to use a dc-dc charger because VSR cant charge lead crystal or AGM at a required voltage of I believe it was 14.5/14.8v and that the battery bank Ive opted to too big for it. Or should I fuse the cable with 50A fuses, assuming that the aux battery will never draw more than 50A? Hi Joe, great article, very informative. For example if there is not enough sun and / or solar panel isnt big enough and you feed it directly to DC-DC charger the voltage will drop and the charger will switch off. If you want the trailer to be isolated (for example if youd rather the car batteries go flat and still have capacity left in the trailer) then youd need two isolation systems. If your solar panels will be permanently in the sun then you may want to consider a way to disconnect the solar panels when the engine is running. Not sure if the higher current for shorter time would cause more wear compared to less efficient charging running for longer (more area under the curve). Can I put the charger directly onto the starter battery thereby charging both the starter and aux batteries via the redarc solenoid? If you want them to disconnect automatically you could have a VSR driving two relays, one to connect the batteries in parallel and the other to connect to alternator. At such a high current youd need a bank of batteries to combat volt drop purely from the internal resistance of the batteries, regardless of the size of the cables you use. can be avoided if you have a I spend a lot of time geeking on this stuff. You need to find a feed from the on position of the ignition and use that to energise the relay. As I understand it, voltage drop caused by the load could risk overcharging of the battery by confusing the charger. Electronics and step up transformers are used to change from direct current to alternating current and to increase the voltage. After charging over night and driving to work the next morning, I noticed the voltage now drops down to 12.6v during normal daytime driving. Hey mate it could cause damage. Simple, good load sharing, ability to charge everything from one point and plenty of current direct off the alternator for charging (a DC-DC charger will be pretty slow at charging all that stuff in parallel). Keep up with City news, services, programs, events and more. For example when people put arrays of lights and crap on their car, sometimes the standard alternator cant keep up, or when running a winch the alternator definitely cant keep up, but the consequence is the battery gets depleted not the alternator going up in smoke. I am impressed with the concept of the dual VSR in the car. hard to miss). Some have a switch or allow you to connect jumper wires that will close the relay when the wires are connected. So the Golf Cart could be connected or disconnected multiple times during the week-end. Two questions though if I may. I am considering a vsr like the enerdrive or redarc. cheers dean. I am considering an argofet splitter connected to the alternator and then the outputs connected to the start battery and the cable run to the camper. No FUN!! The battery charger is powered by AC. Can i start & run car with it connected or will it destroy the regulator & or solar panel ? As a follow up, I tested solar panel with the regulators battery output plugged into the cigarette-lighter-type accessory power plug and it only charged the slightly smaller battery, not the main cranking battery. When the charging of 12V battery bank is almost done, and there is available power output from the solar panels, Id like to have that unused power to charge the 48V battery bank. PMP10594 is a synchronous 4-switch buck-boost converter reference design which utilizes the LM5175 controller for battery charger applications. For batteries that are deeply discharged, occasional higher voltage minimizes sulfation. If that fails you could try shielded cables, I dunno much about buying shielded cables for small stuff, its used in industry a lot for managing interference. Everything in the table is straight from the manufacturer, apart from the maximum current at 3m distancewhich is calculatedbycurrent = volt drop / (resistivity x length). Some battery system vendors have their own solutions for overcoming some the of limitations of DC-DC chargers. If you size the fuse for inrush you can have a situation where the fault doesnt cause the fuse to blow and you start a fire. I can probably either use a step-up or step-down, as long I can control each battery bank with a relay. I am new, but trying to be learning as fast as I can get the information into my noodle. Ill be using a 100AH AGM battery. Its a trade off. Was wondering if there was an easy (or any) way to switch the source of the ACC power? You may need to add short cable links across any high resistance joins. If you dont use the load terminals the regulator will keep the battery at elevated voltage whenever the fridge is running which will overcharge your battery and wear it out. Your thoughts? Mostly on 240V grid but sometimes not. Thanks, On the first test the engine could not start. Hey Joe, Great stuff mate, very informative and truly brings out the spirit of adventure in us all i rekon! Is that how I determine that if the auxiliary battery is connected as well which will receive the same voltage feed ? All lead acid batteries behave fairly similarly. Everything is a compromise. Pete. Im nearly there! They cant both charge at the same time ? Its all explained in the article under the Electrical Protection section of the article. 50% is considered a good compromise between available capacity and cycle life. 2 x 100Ah AGM batteries can take a lot of charge current. They both still hold similar volts when fully charged. Thanks Kevin. Thankyou! The ferroresonant transformer, ferroresonant regulator or constant-voltage transformer is a type of saturating transformer used as a voltage regulator. Hey Ross that should be ok to use, just hook it up to your aux battery. You could achievethis disconnection with a normally closed relay opened when the vehicles keys are in the run position. I have one question that I cant find a answer to anywhere. Actually it will probably oscillate. The JK alternator is to a degree variable voltage will the vsr effectively charge the auxiliary batter or should I look at a DCDC converter (like a Ctek). Sorry for being a pain. 1. It also reduces the depth of discharge on your auxiliary battery, resulting in a net reduction in battery wear across the two batteries. If you dont want to leave your keys in to run accessories you need to re-wire the power supply of those accessories to be constant. If I am using the dual batteries system, how important it is that the main battery MUST be the same as the auxiliary battery? Im guessing, its possible to design it so solar can charge starter battery too, best to check with the manufacturer. Hey Marion the inverter rating is not an issue. They are very reliable and I notice you have a 240V version for caravan parks. Hi Sam good point yes I got the two way path in the calculation example but could be something people overlook. Do I run the fuse block off 1 of the batteries? I dont think that increases the risk of any failure. Around 50% is a good compromise. I get paid tomorrow and will be ordering as many components and cables as I can, so I have it by the end of the month. I am fitting a MPPT 30A solar regulator with 300W on the caravan roof and a portable 140W panel to keep 2 X 120AH batteries charged when stationary. What sort of driving do you mainly do? It avoids confusion when running appliances at different voltages (for example AC appliances through an inverter). Circuit breakers are resettable whereas fuses need to be replaced once they have blown. Not sure what you mean by charger act as a rectifier, can you explain? T = 100 / 10. where 100 is the Ah level of the battery, 10 is the charging current, T is the time at the 10 amp rate. Yes. A good foundation I can build my knowledge and understanding on. should the battry and input power connected and turned on when calibrating?.. I am setting up a race car trailer with a live in area so a lot of what you guys are doing applies too me as well . Probably more like 800 watts but would rather over estimate. My point is not so much the issue with your alternator charging a agm your points are valid to the point I wont argue with them.. its the issue of running a agm battery in parallel with a cranking battery and the issue is not the charging its the discharging of the two units in parallel.. Il get my text book out and get some references for this. The work the alternator does is not related to whether you have a DC-DC charger or not. I also posted a quote from this article with a link, hope you dont mind. The higher voltage also reduces sulfation which reduces the damage caused by each cycle down and extends battery life. Plugs should only be able to be made one way and should be held captive through some sort of latch. Protecting every cable run individually provides discrimination between faults. 1. I don't really have adverts here: it's funded by wonderful people buying the Car Mechanics Video Course. Ha ok well if you need mains power then you will be running your toaster and laptop off mains too. Whelen.35. I only use the battery output terminals at the moment. will I get voltage drop by connecting my portable fridge in the back of my ute via a 12v cable to the caravan some 5metres away? I should probably mention that I have been running a fridge from the start battery and on many occasions have taken the battery down to the fridges cutout of 11-11.5v. Then after a couple of hours driving turn it off so your battery gets a proper boost voltage to give it the final top up and de-sulphation and your fridges will still run. Hi, back from a another bush camping trip and not sure I have my 12v electrics set up correctly. Hey Mike one big battery is fine. Secondly, even if you can safely put the 12V supply and the solar panel in parallel, a solar regulator is not capable of boosting voltage like a DC-DC converter does. my question is this, should I complicate the system and have each 100ah battery with the ability to isolate and charge on the generator or should I just let the J35B manage it and just connect the regulated solar directly to the batteries? if so will a 10-30v 100A DC one do it? I am tremendously impressed I just found this page, and havent yet had time to digest it all, much less formulate questions, but I am also very impressed with the scope of technical knowledge and complete absence of BS. Most other chargers will probably be similar. Float voltage for the crystal battery is 13.6V. Which is also the float voltage for typical cranking batteries. Those sales dudes are awesome. Make sure you have fat cable, short cable run and tight terminations. Suggestions? Thanks for the fantastic article. So the 100A fuse is correct here despite the cable being rater lower? Currently I only have a 100lt fridge that is running off this circuit. I dont think there is really much difference between the output architecture of MPPT vs other regulators. This article is full of sound technical advice probably almost beyond what any layman would need to know but I always agree that the best way to approach a problem and find a solution is to begin by arming yourself with the basic principles of the system you are working on. I have a Hiace Camper with 2 x deep cycle house batteries, 300W solar panel, Votronic 350 MPPT, 240V battery charger, and a single-sensing VSR. If the battery is not fully charged then extra voltage can help charge it faster as well as get rid of some sulfation. So in our example it changes: Solar Panel Rating = 1589 / 7 x 1.3 = 295W. When driving in full sunshine, which one charges the auxillary first? The fridge seems to use far too much power for the rest of equipment. The vsr raises a few issues: I have a 2006 Dodge Ram 2500 diesel truck that I will be storing for about 8 months. Yo James AGM is best coz they will accept a higher charge rate. Some 4x4ers might say, thats OK, Im a Toyota (or other brand ) person, Id never buy a Ranger anyway . Very informative. I think redarc will customize the switching voltage for you when you buy it but cant be easily adjusted afterwards. Maybe batteries are buggered, especially if they were never charged from alternator and had inadequate solar and left long term in discharged state. Then check if you need to go bigger for voltage drop. Im currently running a narva VSR for my dual battery set up in my 2014 sr5 hilux. Wherever you see second battery or auxiliary battery you can replace it with a bank of batteries. Will this mean I have to go down the DC DC charger route? If I have a camper with 300a of lifepo, I am thinking quicker to charge via alternator. How would I setup my 12v system so the cars cigarette plugs are powered from the axillary battery only while the engine is off? Hello Joe, as I had this idea and realise the charger needs mains power. If you get an AGM of around 100Ah and run some decent cables to it then it will take a decent current, say 40A. Thanks very much. This means, in cycling applications, the battery will suffer from sulfationwhich willaccumulate with each cycle and eventually cause premature battery failure. Thanks for the quick reply Joe. What I need to know is what equipment I would require to set this system up. Hey Mike. WebTIDA-00753 Three Phase AC Current Measurements Using Current Transformer Reference Design. A bit about my set up though which might explain where Im coming from. The design of the boat is such that to replace one you need remove both batteries. I was told at the time to always parallel same battery brand/model/size and never different sizes as one would never charge fully; the larger battery would only charge to the same capacity as the smaller battery. There is potential for damage and safest option is to cover your panels when driving, but what should happen is as the batteries become fully charged and the voltage rises and current reduces the regulator should automatically back off the voltage to around the same level as the alternator when it enters float mode. The fridge is a small evakool and we have a few led lights. Hey Cam yeah I know about smartpass, I think I mention somewhere in the article that some vendors have solutions to help overcome the limitations of dcdc chargers but I try to steer clear of suggesting brands and stuff, Im not trying to sell anything or suggest one compromise is better than any other. WebThe DeWalt DXAEC801B Automotive 12-Volt Bench Battery Charger features microprocessor-controlled automatic 30 Amp charging with an 80 Amp Engine Start and Patented Alternator Check. As after full charge battery voltage reaches to 54V. Instead they should be connected direct to the battery, as the large load will pull the voltage down anyway and you do not want to overload the load terminals on the solar regulator. You could do it other ways to save you from having to turn off the solar. Hey Joel yeah man I think that will do the job, as long as you dont have more than a couple of hundred amp hours of battery capacity. are switched on in the car when you reconnect the battery - a spark may occur as you replace the second battery terminal and ignite battery gas. weve just determining the battery charged by using battery load tester and hydrometer tester.what tools were used to determine Whereas the float stage occurs when the charge voltage is reduced to between 13.0 VDC to 13.6 VDC and currently does not drop, also this stage is used to maintain a fully charged indefinably. beforehand: otherwise some alternators - generally the older type - can be damaged. Hi Joe, Hey Adrian that Piranha product is perfect for a simple voltage sensing relay system. Capacities of lithium batteries are often over-stated by their dodgy chinese vendors, eroding some of the benefits of lithium. It should work ok, the bigger battery will inherently supply more current and receive more charge based on how its voltage rises and falls compared to the smaller batteries. Its a compromise between economies of scale and how awkward and difficult to access / install / maintain / vulnerability to vibrations and movement. This is much too high for lead acid batteries and will cause excessive grid corrosion and pressure venting and rapid failure of the battery. Reading through your article seemingly Im going to compound my problem by overcharging my batteries especially when using my solar panel connected to the DC-DC charger. If you use 35mm cable it would be 0.46V volt drop and about 8W power loss. It uses magnetic deflection, where current passing through a coil placed in the magnetic field of a permanent magnet causes the coil to move. Hey Graeme a DCDC charger may be useful to combat volt drop in your scenario. http://www.vanwurks.co.uk/pms-electrical-distribution-unit-power-management-system.html. . The input 220 Volt AC is step-down to 15V-0-15V using a center-tapped transformer. Why not word your comment nicely? 1. This guide gives you the info you need to pick your compromise. Cable to inverter doesnt matter as much. This circuit has a maximum current capacity of 1 A only. With a VSR, does the proximity to the alternator or cranking battery matter? I found a way to manually turn off the VSR (by turning on the headlights until the switch turns off). Lots and lots of remote camping stopped for days at a time. You can connect your solar panels directly to your auxiliary battery. Thanks Joe for these precious advices that I will definately use. If you have some other load then the DC-DC converter will not drop to float. Yes you are right when cranking the voltage will drop and the VSRs will open. Howdy Jack to make it permanently connected to your aux battery youd disconnect the cigarette plug from where its fed from (probably some aux fuse somewhere in the fuse box) and connect it to the aux battery. Most dual battery isolatorsare of this type. They are resistive loads so do not have any inrushcurrent. Cheers. That is fine and is done all the time with battery banks in industry but usually all the batteries in the bank are same type and age and will suffer the same charge and discharge cycles throughout their life. This system requires more thought and design effort beyond the scope of a quick reply in the comments of a blog. BUT the 17A should prevent the further discharge of the Aux battery ? Each cycle wears it out a bit. The issue I see is prolonging battery life. Slow top up means greater risk of deep discharge afterwards, which damages the battery. You cant connect the batteries separately to a single charging system because the charging system will see a short circuit where the negative and positive are connected at the batteries. D. Power board use for min appliance for min time!! A bit of a story in return. The answer in all these cases is frequent testing with a Read here and here for some background. Even a few hours of cooling on a long trip might help the esky effect of frozen ice-bricks in the fridge freezer compartment. Thanks Joe for your advice, much appreciated. WebHomebrew RF Circuit Design Ideas "There is no such thing as a new idea. Worst comes to worst just run the engine for a bit. Great article and follow up comments. There will be a rectifier within any AC to DC conversion. It is impossible. When two batteries are in parallel the two self discharge loads are also paralleled and the batteries share that load just like they would any other load. Ive had a look at a redarc SBI12D relay it doesnt say what max voltage output/input it does. It is also pointless installing both panels permanently to the vehicles roof because when the vehicle is moving, the battery will also be charged from the alternator. I just want to keep the charge up on the crank battery (can use jumper leads from auxilliary battery if it becomes necessary I believe) and keep a reasonable charge in the auxiliary battery when moble. I feel very lucky to have so many similar mornings waking up feeling awesome out there (even when Ive enjoyed too many fine brews). 380 / 12 = 31.6A so your 30A regulator may not be enough in bright conditions. Hey Josh Im not 100% clear on what you propose. Most cigarette lighter plugs are only active when the accessories are turned on. I purchased a 10 W solar panel kit which included a 7 A regulator/controller. In this case the cable fails and it needs to be oversized to pass the volt drop criteria. They are more common for motor homes or caravans where you have a permanent distribution network for the AC system. Cheers (and thanks for great info!). I want to ensure the caravan battery gets charged before power goes to the fridge. hydrometer If you have a solar charging system then you get the advantages you describe through the solar regulator. I thought good its not controlled by the ECU or anything. Since I want to charge 2 batteries in parallel Can I change LM317 with L350 which has a 3A rating and the pinout configuration is same and also R7with 1N5822 3A schottky diode. I had a redarc sb12 in my last vehicle (2008 Hilux) & never had any probs Very interesting post. This means you rely on a specialized and expensive lithium DC-DC charger and if it fails whilst out bush and you try to directly charge from the alternator then the lithium battery will not charge properly. Other than that refer to article for all the other pros and cons of VSR vs DC-DC. Most of the forums I read, users tend to have one 100Ah battery if running the 12v appliances that I have in mind. The DC-DC converter still gets its energy from the alternator. As an example, lets say you have a 3m cable run from battery to the 1000Winverter mentioned above. Adjustable Variable LED Adapter Regulated 5V 12V 24V 30V 36V 48V Volt Voltage Transformer 10A Amp Charger for Lab CCTV. But this is offset by the disadvantages of the dcdc converter so you need to way it up. Refer to article. Also unsure as to what size cable the preinstalled is a twin core B&S. Just chuck them all in parallel after the VSR. If I get a higher amp regulator and connect both panels to it, will both panels charge the battery at the same time? cheers. This charges your battery faster in the final stages which may offer a higher state of charge. In addition to that its got a solenoid controlled back up jump starting arrangement which by heavy cables push button connects the Aux battery to the starter battery in the event of a flat main starter battery. Peter, Thank you so much for this. a line fuse cable lead to the battery. When I am at home or in a caravan park I use mains, while I am on the road I run the mains charger from the inverter which is being powered by the car to charge the second battery in the trailer. Once its closed it may allow current to flow either way, thats how they usually work. The unit is driven by a transformer whose secondary is usually 14-15 Volts having a current of 3 Amperes minimum. Thanks for that wonderful article it really helped John from Wagga Wagga, Hi Joe, Ive been running a Ctek D250S charger under the bonnet for about 8 years, looking after the start and auxiliary batteries. Your regulator should be located near the batteries. Interference is on FM from a Projector IDC-25 mounted on top of a plastic battery box in the cargo area of a Pathfinder R51. But an all 12V system is also a good solution, bit safer maybe. 32 inch long cigarette lighter plug makes the power inverter can be plugged into almost any Yo Otzi how are ya dude? Note cable sizes are cross sectional area of conductor rather than some external diameter or something. I currently have a duel battery setup in my toyota prado, and I am buying a caravan. Here, we used dual operation amplifier LM358 (IC2) as a comparator which compares the output voltage with a reference voltage and controls the overcharge of the battery. If you have a smart variable voltage alternator that spends a lot of the time at reduced voltage and wont respond to loads by cranking up the voltage then you probably need a DC-DC converter. Should I upgrade the standard Toyota alternator for higher amps and at the same time get a big 4 wiring upgrade from alternator to starter battery,chassis, engine,VSRs or is this a waste of money? Adjustable Variable LED Adapter Regulated 5V 12V 24V 30V 36V 48V Volt Voltage Transformer 10A Amp Charger for Lab CCTV. Hey Derek what load do you have connected to the inverter? There can be an emotional bias towards lithium since it is the newer and more fancy technology and therefore attracts more status in the vehicle modding community. Mixing different panels together gives a compromised operating point. Great article. This may lead to advantages of lithium being over-stated. It took about 2 hours to go into the last stage(Float), so maybe it was down a bit. Amid rising prices and economic uncertaintyas well as deep partisan divisions over social and political issuesCalifornians are processing a great deal of information to help them choose state constitutional Amazing article, best information I have come across to date. Massive bank of batteries? And also check for the series resistor (R7), if it get hotter than also replace it with higher power (10W). Page 7 and onwards really spells out that theyll have nothing to do with unapproved conversions and that the converter should offer the same warranty that Ford would otherwise do if it were their product or installation. Current draw would be 15A fridge + 2A Engel = 17A. They are available in a range of current ratings to suit various applications. The solar regulator needs to exceed this value. It means you need to double the distance of the cable run. None of this is adequate to power compressor fridge, as well as use hot water for dishes etc. No need to separately charge batteries. James Burns. You need a multimeter and poke around whilst charging and discharging to see whats happening. Take care where you put the gear. TIDA-00753 Three Phase AC Current Measurements Using Current Transformer Reference Design. Can you explain actual voltage levels and how the regulator monitors battery levels and how an overcharge condition would be avoided when other loads are connected? The winner depends so much on the assumptions and prices chosen when calculating the total cost. With a 17A load I can only imagine if the BCDC dropped out of Boost mode it would soon return due to battery draw down(voltage drop). Fuses and circuit breakers should be used in any 12V system. I was hoping that i dont need the dc to dc charger set up as i wont be leaving the battery permanently in the car, and only be utilising the dual battery option when i put it in the car for weekends away or shopping trips where i take the waeco to keep goods cold when not coming straight home. 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